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An amp that offers all the great tones that a pro could ask for.

The Egnater Renegade Tube Guitar Amp Head is an incredibly versatile 2-channel powerhouse. The amp's 65W give you the tools to forge your sound and the power to move some serious air in any size performance venue. The Renegade amp's Channel 1 produces lush, 3-dimensional clean tones with just a bit of grunt when you dig in. Channel 2 starts with a sweet, bluesy overdrive, but pushing the gain opens the floodgates, unleashing enough thick, harmonically rich distortion to satisfy the most demanding player. Both channels offer an independent 3-band EQ, Egnater's BRIGHT and TIGHT switches and a Wattage Selector switch that lets you choose between an intimate 18W or a wall-shaking 65W. Master Presence and Density knobs let you sculpt the high and low-end response.

At the heart of this Egnater tone machine, you'll find 5 - 12AX7 preamp tubes and a power section fueled by 2 - 6L6s and 2 EL34 valves. The Renegade Head features the ground-breaking TUBE MIX function on each channel, allowing you to blend the deep Californian character of the 6L6s with the aggressive British midrange punch of the EL34 tubes. The Renegade Tube Amp has independent reverb controls for each channel, dual footswitchable master volumes and a speaker-emulated line out. The included 4-button footswitch controls much more than just channel switching. Use the switch to also engage the on-board reverb, effects loop and secondary master volume with channel-assigning switches for all 3. Run them on both channels or just the one you choose. Egnater includes a heavy duty cover with the Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head.


FEATURES
  • 65-Watt All-Tube Head
  • Two Independent Channels Each With:
  • Volume, Gain, 3-Band EQ
  • Tight and Bright Voicing Switches
  • 18w / 65w Wattage Selector Switch
  • Tube Mix Blends 6L6 and EL34 Power Tubes
  • Master Controls:
  • Presence & Density
  • Individual Reverb on Each Channel with "Spillover"
  • Main and Secondary Master Volumes
  • Four-Button Footswitch with Channel Select Plus:
  • Assign the REVERB, EFFECTS LOOP and MAIN 2 Volume to Just Channel 1, Just Channel 2 or Both - Right From the Pedal
  • Simple Master Bias Adjust with External Test Points
  • Buffered Effects Loop
  • Balanced XLR / ΒΌ" Cabinet Voiced Line / Recording
  • Output:
  • 100V / 115V / 230V Voltage Selector
  • Heavy Duty Cover Included

Plug in to all-tube tone that takes no prisoners! Order now.

SPECIFICATIONS

Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head

  • Renegade Tubes:
    6 x 12AX7
    2 x 6L6
    2 x EL34

    Dimensions: 25" (L) x 10" (W) x 10" (H)
    Weight: 35 lbs
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EgnaterRenegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head
 
4.0

(based on 20 reviews)

Ratings Distribution

  • 5 Stars

     

    (13)

  • 4 Stars

     

    (1)

  • 3 Stars

     

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  • 2 Stars

     

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    (3)

57%

of respondents would recommend this to a friend.

Pros

  • Excellent sound (5)
  • Good power output (5)
  • Warm / comfy (5)
  • Easy to use (4)

Cons

No Cons

Best Uses

  • Professional recording (6)
  • Home studio (5)
  • Outdoor events / games (4)
  • Performances (4)
  • Amateur recording (3)
    • Reviewer Profile:
    • Experienced (4), Professional musician (4)

Most Liked Positive Review

 

Really three power amps in single head

There is 2 major types of big bottle tube amps. The power amp section is usually driven by 6L6 or EL34 tubes. 6L6 tubes amps are known for the Fenderish american sound and EL34...Read complete review

There is 2 major types of big bottle tube amps. The power amp section is usually driven by 6L6 or EL34 tubes. 6L6 tubes amps are known for the Fenderish american sound and EL34 tubes for the Vox/Marshall British invasion tones.

The Egnater Renegade is really 3 amps in one by providing a knob allowing selection of the 6L6 or EL34 power amp or blending each power amp together using all the power tubes. This gives you Fenderish american rock, Vox/Marshallish tones and a 3rd combination blending the two from one single amp in actual pure tube glory at the turn of a knob.

I run my heads through Egnater Tourmaster 2x12 cabs but it sounds excellent through any cab I've tried. One of my heads has a 8 ohm 4x10 cab in parallel with 2x12 cab and the head drives that no problem setting the load at 4 ohms.

I use a BOSS ME-70 as a stomp box for FX. I only use the delay, modulation, compression and sometimes distortion through the FX loop. Never spoil my pure natural tube tone with amp or cab emulations. Never spoil my pure tube reverb with a pedal.

Counting the Boost pedal function you could say this is a 4 channel amp, ch1, ch1+boost, ch2 & ch2+boost. The reverb is also channel assignable, all on, only ch1 or ch2.

The 18/65 watt selector switch should be renamed the approximately 18/65 watts or power tubes to eliminate from signal switch and requires some understanding of how the power tube mixing works. To get 65 watts the tube mix is set in the middle causing use of all 4 power tubes at once. If you set the switch to one side or the other, then you're using only those powers tubes selected. If it is set to EL34, the 6L6s are not providing power to the signal. Only the 6L6's in use then about 30-50 watts, only the EL34's in use then about 30-60 watts. The 18 watt mode requires that the tube mix switch be in the middle by using only one 6L6 and one EL34. If you have the tube mix to only one side, then you'll only be using one power tube in the side selected by the tube mix knob. Research internet for a better understanding of how much signal amplification a single 6L6 or EL34 can produce and why as wattage increases so does the number of power amp tubes.

Now add the other features like tight/bright, presence, 3 band equalizer, the fact you're getting a 6L6 power tube and a EL34 power tube platform all in one package and this is the obvious choice. Why have a twin reverb and an AC50 and a JVM when this one head will provide all those same tones?

To save weight, my back and setup time I got this amp to replace my rack setup, Randall RT2/50 power, Engl 530 pre and a BOSS GT Pro FX along with rolling rack case. The RT2/50 power amp is Egnater designed also providing the ability to blend 6L6 and EL34 power amp sections or select them individually. While this amp is heavy, it is much lighter than all that rack stuff producing the same quality tone.

I must really like the Renegade because I own two and also got one for my son as a gift. I guess the only thing that could be done to improve this amp would be to include a EL84/QB65, KT66 and a KT88 power amp section too. Then you would have all the amps in one head. How you going to pull that off Bruce?

Get it. If you can get a referb or condition 1-2 one then all the better. If you're on a more serious budget look at my best bang for the buck amp, the Peavey Valve King 100 watt head and even a refurb or condition 1-2 return on these is a bigger bang for buck deal.

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Most Liked Negative Review

 

DONT BUY THIS THING

First of all let me say this amp has great tone and a ton of very useful features which I was really pumped about when I bought this... the problem is how unreliable...Read complete review

First of all let me say this amp has great tone and a ton of very useful features which I was really pumped about when I bought this... the problem is how unreliable this amp has been for me. In the middle of a show the clean channel got very weak and crackly. Turns out the overdrive channel was bleeding through. I sent it back to egnater who had it fixed and back to me in a timely month and a half. Once I got it back it worked great... until two months later! Same thing happened and when I called egnater thinking they would fix it for free this time they said no, it'll be another 250 big ones. On top of that my foot pedal stopped working properly. And let me say I take great care of my equipment and cables. As much as I would like to stick with egnater I don't think i'd ever get something from them again. Moving back to fender!

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(12 of 12 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Really three power amps in single head

By OttoMatick-o23Xt

from Seattle, WA

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Pros

  • Bias Adjust
  • Dual Watt Operation
  • Excellent Sound
  • Foot Switch Incl
  • Gain
  • Good Warmth
  • Powerful

Cons

  • Foot Swincl
  • Zero Cons

Best Uses

  • Amateur Recording
  • Events
  • Home Studio
  • Performances
  • Professional Recording

Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

There is 2 major types of big bottle tube amps. The power amp section is usually driven by 6L6 or EL34 tubes. 6L6 tubes amps are known for the Fenderish american sound and EL34 tubes for the Vox/Marshall British invasion tones.

The Egnater Renegade is really 3 amps in one by providing a knob allowing selection of the 6L6 or EL34 power amp or blending each power amp together using all the power tubes. This gives you Fenderish american rock, Vox/Marshallish tones and a 3rd combination blending the two from one single amp in actual pure tube glory at the turn of a knob.

I run my heads through Egnater Tourmaster 2x12 cabs but it sounds excellent through any cab I've tried. One of my heads has a 8 ohm 4x10 cab in parallel with 2x12 cab and the head drives that no problem setting the load at 4 ohms.

I use a BOSS ME-70 as a stomp box for FX. I only use the delay, modulation, compression and sometimes distortion through the FX loop. Never spoil my pure natural tube tone with amp or cab emulations. Never spoil my pure tube reverb with a pedal.

Counting the Boost pedal function you could say this is a 4 channel amp, ch1, ch1+boost, ch2 & ch2+boost. The reverb is also channel assignable, all on, only ch1 or ch2.

The 18/65 watt selector switch should be renamed the approximately 18/65 watts or power tubes to eliminate from signal switch and requires some understanding of how the power tube mixing works. To get 65 watts the tube mix is set in the middle causing use of all 4 power tubes at once. If you set the switch to one side or the other, then you're using only those powers tubes selected. If it is set to EL34, the 6L6s are not providing power to the signal. Only the 6L6's in use then about 30-50 watts, only the EL34's in use then about 30-60 watts. The 18 watt mode requires that the tube mix switch be in the middle by using only one 6L6 and one EL34. If you have the tube mix to only one side, then you'll only be using one power tube in the side selected by the tube mix knob. Research internet for a better understanding of how much signal amplification a single 6L6 or EL34 can produce and why as wattage increases so does the number of power amp tubes.

Now add the other features like tight/bright, presence, 3 band equalizer, the fact you're getting a 6L6 power tube and a EL34 power tube platform all in one package and this is the obvious choice. Why have a twin reverb and an AC50 and a JVM when this one head will provide all those same tones?

To save weight, my back and setup time I got this amp to replace my rack setup, Randall RT2/50 power, Engl 530 pre and a BOSS GT Pro FX along with rolling rack case. The RT2/50 power amp is Egnater designed also providing the ability to blend 6L6 and EL34 power amp sections or select them individually. While this amp is heavy, it is much lighter than all that rack stuff producing the same quality tone.

I must really like the Renegade because I own two and also got one for my son as a gift. I guess the only thing that could be done to improve this amp would be to include a EL84/QB65, KT66 and a KT88 power amp section too. Then you would have all the amps in one head. How you going to pull that off Bruce?

Get it. If you can get a referb or condition 1-2 one then all the better. If you're on a more serious budget look at my best bang for the buck amp, the Peavey Valve King 100 watt head and even a refurb or condition 1-2 return on these is a bigger bang for buck deal.

(7 of 7 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Great Tone for the Money

By Reviewer-ZiRby

from USA

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Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

This is an excellent amp with significant power and outstanding tone. I think the stock tubes produce very good results, particularly when compared to similarly priced amplifiers using stock tubes. I now have NOS GE preamp tubes, with a JAN GE 5751 in the phase inverter, Winged C 6L6GC tubes (which I prefer for the clean channel over the EL34?s) and Winged C EL34 tubes (which I prefer for the overdrive channel over the 6L6?s). I tried scores of tubes before I decided on those referenced above. The tone of this amp with these tubes is competitive with any other modern amp regardless of price, particularly for classic rock. The upgraded tubes cost approximately $400 for a total investment of $1,400.00. Simply put, this amp is an outstanding value. I rate quality at 4.5 only because it isn't a hand wired, turret board based amplifier. Customer service is outstanding; Bruce Egnater himself answers most e-mail questions within 24 hours. I believe that the reviewer who gave Egnater amplifiers poor marks due to reliability problems with demo units in a store is doing potential buyers a disservice. I don?t think people who simply use equipment in a store should write reviews because they likely have no knowledge of the history of the reviewed equipment, nor are they intimately familiar with the sound of all associated equipment and/or the room acoustics. This is a reliable amplifier with a 3-year warranty backed by a U.S. Company who quickly responds to all telephone calls and e-mails. There's even a forum that company employees/executives participate in on a regular basis. Most problems are with blown tubes and/or fuses - replaceable items that are not indicative of the build quality of an amplifier. I am a very satisfied customer and I firmly believe that the tone and flexibility this amplifier provides will satisfy me for many years to come.

(6 of 6 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Don't Believe the Lack of Hype

By srinivassa

from Huntsville, AL

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Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

First off, please don't believe that Bruce Egnater doesn't care about his product or his customers. This is absolutely rediculous. Just go to rig-talk.com and look at the Egnater forum. It's literally riddled with posts from Bruce and Ian trying to help out their customers. Everything from making custom mods people can buy to answering my stupid questions about amp building.Secondly, the amp itself is great. I don't know where the mystical term 'tone' comes from in you mind, but this is definitely a good sounding amp. Highlights are being able to go from a California clean to a Britsh snarl with a press of the footswitch. Guitars really bring out their personality well. I have rarely heard an amp that so vividly brings out a Strat sound, then a full bore smooth humbucker sound with a guitar switch. Also, if you are hurting for 'tone,' I have literally heard from a dozen people that a tube swap does this thing WONDERS. It's also pretty easy on the wallet considering whet you are getting. The stock cabs are actually pretty good as well, though many people scoff at the Chinese-made Celestions.The bad part, there are some reliability and quality issues. I myself have a bad potentiometer that makes my gain knob sketchy. I'm not willing to mail it to a tech for a $3 part, so I will probably ending up voiding my warranty to fix it. Big sacrifice for a trifle like this. There are also a lot of issues with people disliking the reverb and effects loop, both of which I believe Bruce is creating mods for.Overall, I couldn't ask for much more. If I didn't have that bad pot, I could seriously give this a perfect score. I do guarantee you though that Bruce cares about his customers. Get in contact with him or Ian if you have a problem. They do not like leaving issues with quality hanging out there unresolved.

(4 of 10 customers found this review helpful)

 
4.0

Mixed Signals

By Alexander

from Philadelphia, PA

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Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

I played both the Rebel 30 and this amp (Renegade) in the store for about 30 minutes using an Epiphone hollowbody and no pedals. The sounds I got were quite good. It's a bright amp with a crisp clean and solid bottom end response. I like the speakers and, most of all, the generous features built into the amp. I commend Bruce for the smart design. From a tone perspective, I liked most of what I'd heard. The distortion is a little harsh to my ears, and not in a cool edgy way like the Orange Terrors. It's more in the cheap sense. The power sponge was a little gimmicky ? it was there but it didn?t do much. Everything else sounded great. If you have a Crate V Series, Jet City or a Bugera tube amp and are looking to upgrade, this is a great choice. If you have a midrange tube amp like a Marshall MA, Vox AC or a Fender Hot Rod, you might not feel this is a sufficient step up for the price.My biggest issue with it is the spotty quality control. The store had about five Egnater amps. Of these, the Renegade head's gain channel wasn't working at all. The Rebel 30 combo had a slight rattle. I?d also read several reviews online listing reliability issues. If you still want to get it, MF offers great technical service and support. But for me, these are unacceptable and inexcusable lapses in quality and reliability for the price range. I played a Fender Deluxe Reverb for $100 less than the Egnater and not only did I get SUBLIME sound, the amp oozed quality. No rattles or burnt out channels. I think the Egnater Tweaker series is right on target. At their price you're willing to deal with occasional issues. But the Rebel 30 and Renegades are off-message. They?re expensive, nowhere near the quality of boutique amps, and nowhere near the value of budget amps. It's NOT a price range that should have so many problems. It?s just not practical to make a high end BUDGET product. A Ferrari is a Ferrari for a reason. If they made a $30,000 Ferrari, you?d run into the same problem: a product that gets the unfortunate distinction of neither boasting quality nor being a big value. Like my Renegade?s busted drive channel, Egnater is sending mixed signals with this idea of ?budget boutique.?

(3 of 4 customers found this review helpful)

 
1.0

DONT BUY THIS THING

By gibender11

from minneapolis, mn

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Pros

  • Great Sound And Features

Cons

  • Constant Problems
  • Terrible Quality

Best Uses

  • Home Studio
  • Professional Recording

Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

First of all let me say this amp has great tone and a ton of very useful features which I was really pumped about when I bought this... the problem is how unreliable this amp has been for me. In the middle of a show the clean channel got very weak and crackly. Turns out the overdrive channel was bleeding through. I sent it back to egnater who had it fixed and back to me in a timely month and a half. Once I got it back it worked great... until two months later! Same thing happened and when I called egnater thinking they would fix it for free this time they said no, it'll be another 250 big ones. On top of that my foot pedal stopped working properly. And let me say I take great care of my equipment and cables. As much as I would like to stick with egnater I don't think i'd ever get something from them again. Moving back to fender!

(3 of 3 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Great players amp

By mic-UDQeR

from East Coast

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Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

My only grip is the clean channel is too clean hardly any crunch to it could use a little more gain, no over lap between the 2 channels, but they both sounds great.
This baby has a lot go'n for her. 2 channels with plenty of options to tweak your tone. Great foot switch. But the best is the tube mix feature, plus the ablity to swap in alot of different type of tubes. Now the difference between tubes is not night and day, but you can hear and feel them. Ever want to hear the difference between those NOS tubes and current stock, this is the way with instance swaps so you don't have to remember load them both and play away. This amp is not missing to much, one os the best bang for your dollars plus they give you the foot switch and cover.
It's not handwired, it's made in china, but they are solid, real plywood, they give you preamp tube shields for all the tubes, nice power and output trans, the stock tubes are ok. All the knobs are smooth.
For the price, you can't go wrong. They give you everything, just plug in and rock

(3 of 4 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

What I have been waiting for..

By Voxinator

from Florida

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Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

I have been buying and using amps for 10 years now, about 90 to compare this to. The tubes are the weak point in this amp. It comes with Sovtek 12AX7WA in V1-V6 positions, and a pair of Sovtek 6L6WXTs, and a pair of Ruby tubes EL34s. I replaced the V1-V4 with Mullard reissues, and it warmed the tone up significantly. The stock preamp tubes are not very musical and are only rated a 2 on a scale from 1 to 5 from a very well respected online tube store. Mullards get a 5, so do Tung-Sol. I replaced the EL34s with Mullards also, much warmer and smoother, still plenty of bite. Gain set at 9:00 on channel 2. The biggest improvement was replacing the 6L6s with GEs. Rebiasing was easy thanks to test points on back. I get blackface touch senstive crunch on channel 1, liquid Hi-gain on channel 2, even my Mesa can not do that. Reverb sounds great, not Fender-Like, but good enough. The 18/65 watt switch only works at high volume. The 65 watts is only attainable when the mix knob is centered, and all 4 power tubes have equal signal. My clean channel likes the old NOS 6L6s, much warmer and crunchier even with a strat. Turn the gain to about 3:00 and its crunch-time. No pedals needed with this amp. The footswitch has four buttons and will allow you to switch the volume up for lead solos without adding gain, so it's like havingh a 4 channel amp. It has a resonance control (called "Density") and a master presence control. The midrange control will shape the tone of the EL34s to sound like Hendrix, or SRV. I keep the main 1 control fairly low and turn the volume of each channel very high to cook the power tubes, and gain set low. This is the key to getting good overdrive without fizz and noise. I play this through a 2x12 Bandmaster closed back cab with a a pair of Vintage Fender EV-12Ls to get more bottom end. It should sound good with any 2x12 or 4x12 cab as long as you change the tubes.

(2 of 2 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Fingers Crossed!

By Stratoverb

from Hudson Valley NY

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Pros

  • Easy To Use
  • Excellent Sound
  • Good Warmth
  • Portable
  • Powerful

Cons

    Best Uses

    • Amateur Recording
    • Events
    • Home Studio
    • Performances
    • Professional Recording

    Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

    I've been through quite a few amps and I have to say this is by far the most versatile and best sounding. You can really tweak your tone and the functions are very easy to use and effective. The lead channel is very Marshall like and reacts well to your guitars volume knob. The clean channel is very rich and clear. You can tighten the overall sound of both channels and brighten it up as well. Mixing the tubes gives some very subtle tonal variation, but it's there. If I had one gripe regarding this amps sound it would be that the clean channel's reverb(each channel has its own verb) gets a little harsh sounding when the gain is up on that channel..otherwise it sounds good. The gain on the second channel sounds better to me than using my Box of Rock, OCD or Tube screamer. With the footswitchable boost I don't find myself needing a stomp at all. This is the first amp that I just don't use dirt pedals with because they don't sound as good as what I can get with the amps own gain and that's a first for me. So with this I finally feel like I have the best of both worlds...a fantastic clean with a great lead channel....the holy grail.

    Most reviews seem to echo this sentiment of great tone. However it seems that reliability is mixed. So far mine's been fine and I have my fingers crossed. I hope they square this away because this is the best sounding and featured amp I've ever used. I'd probably fix or get another if it had an issue. Spring reverb would be nice but it's definitely not a deal breaker. The transformers seem to be the weak point(based on reviews) and Mercury Magnets makes a quality replacement which might be worth doing. I'd do just about anything to keep this amp working because I like it that much.

    Amps I've owned, AC15/AC30CC2/Supersonic22/Kustom 72 coupe/Carvin Nomad/Carvin X100B(80s)/Marshall Class5/Peavey Windsor and others. The clean on the Renegade is as good as any of them and the gain is better than all of them. This amp will cover any type of music your willing to play and sound great doing it.

    (2 of 2 customers found this review helpful)

     
    2.0

    Forever at the shop

    By T-rankin

    from Wichita ks

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    Pros

    • Great tone

    Cons

    • Breaks Frequently

    Best Uses

      Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

      I loved this amp until a tube shorted. But since then it has been one problem after another. After the tube went it was the power transformer. I've had it to the shop seven or eight times in the last year.

      (2 of 19 customers found this review helpful)

       
      1.0

      Eganter , a Company you cant trust !!!!!

      By ROBERT SCIFI

      from New york

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      Comments about Egnater Renegade 65W Tube Guitar Amp Head:

      Bought the Egnater Renegade head on Feburary 1 2011 , it worked for about 2 hours , loud disturbing humm hiss on high , master volume at 9 o clock . I called Egnater we tried a number of quick fixes , none worked I had to pay 58 dollars to ship amp back to Egnater time frame is owning amp 2 weeks playing on amp 3 hours total and eas delivered supposedly fixed first wek in March . I tried amp even more problems know volume fluctuates still loud noise a, this amp can never be used for studio or live not reliable at all . This time Egnater is paying for shipment back to them and they are still insisting on sebnding back same amp to me fixed . My answer is no!! I want a NEW oNE iM TOLD WE WILL SEE . dO NOT BUY FROM ANY COMPANY THAT DOES NOT STAND BEHIND ITS PRODUCT BUT EVEN MORE DO NOT BUY FROM ANY COMPANY THAT WONT EXCEPT THERE FAILURE ON QUALITY CONTROL AS A FAULT !! iF THIS GOES TO COURT I WILL WIN THIS AMP IS A LEMON aND SHOULD BE REPLACED eGNATER i WILL NEVER BUY AGAIN AND I OWN 2 212 CABS AND THERE TWEAKER . jUST THINK 1100 AMP BOUGHT IN fEBURAR AND ALREADY RETURNED 2 TIMES AND A COMPANY WONT EXCHANGEE IT !!

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