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Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum 8x14 

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  • 14" x 8" shell size
  • Black nickel-over-brass shell
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    $590.00
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      Ludwig

      Delivers the classic tone that players have come to expect from Ludwig—with a modern flair.

      The 14" x 8" Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum is inspired by the Ludwig Coliseum. It may be the ultimate in low-bodied power and projection.

      Based on Ludwig's legendary Black Beauty snare drums—long the optimal choice for touring and recording drummers in need of volume, tonal clarity, and optimal snare response—Ludwig has gone one step further with the Black Magic snare. A classic formula for a more aggressive musical age, Black Magic snare drums share the same shell type with the Black Beauty, but with upgrades like matching die-cast hoops for increased volume, and tube-style lugs for maximum shell resonance.

      Features
      • 14" x 8" shell size
      • Black nickel-over-brass shell

      Its unusual 8" depth puts the magic in the tone of the Black Magic snare.

       
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      LudwigBlack Magic Snare Drum
       
      4.8

      (based on 12 reviews)

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      100%

      of respondents would recommend this to a friend.

      Pros

      • Huge tone (4)
      • Responsive (4)
      • Sensitive (4)
      • Great sound (3)
      • Versatile (3)

      Cons

        Best Uses

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            • Experienced (3)

          Most Liked Positive Review

           

          AMAZING Snare Drum. My New Go-To

          This is my new work horse. It gives me everything I need. I play in rock, reggae, and funk bands. I also do studio work. This snare doesn't disappoint in any...Read complete review

          This is my new work horse. It gives me everything I need. I play in rock, reggae, and funk bands. I also do studio work. This snare doesn't disappoint in any situation.

          It has a warm tone but a great crack that you only get from brass snares. Is the black beauty "better"? Only a drummer with a good ear would be able to tell a difference, and it wouldn't be a big difference. Also consider that you wouldn't hear the difference in a live setting.

          No complaints with quality. I did put on nylon snare straps which greatly improved sensitivity. I also use the Evans G1 coated head with a little dampening.

          I went with the 8X14 model because I wanted that deep fat sound. It can be tuned higher and responds very well in that range. However, I will say that I always play with a second 13" aux snare to get the higher tones. I keep my Back Magic tuned low for my main snare. I say this because I have heard that the 7X13 Black Magic is the most versatile if you are using only one snare. I debated between the 13" and 14" models quite a bit, but chose this one because it was able to get those fat tones while still responding well to high tuning. No regrets!!!!

          VS

          Most Liked Negative Review

           

          Good, but not great. I was expecting more, Ludwig...

          I have the 6.5x14 version of this snare.
          I bought it about a year ago. I'll be honest, I had really high hopes for this snare. Don't get me wrong -...Read complete review

          I have the 6.5x14 version of this snare.
          I bought it about a year ago. I'll be honest, I had really high hopes for this snare. Don't get me wrong - it's not that bad, but it's not what I expected. Let me try to run you through some of the pros and cons I have about this snare.Pros: Solidly made. Despite being made in Taiwan, it's very solid. Other people complaining about lugs falling out must be tuning it wrong or have a faulty model or something. I have beat the living hell out of this thing and nothing has ever loosened at all. Die cast hoops are really solid and nicely made.Tube lugs look nice and keep contact with the shell minimal, offering better resonance.The drum just looks badass. Black on black looks real slick. Cons:After many (4+) different drumhead selections (Remo emperor, black X, CS reverse dot, Evans power center reverse dot, hazy 300 snare side, ambassador snare side), hours of tuning at different tensions (Batter head low, medium, high, cranked, bottom head at all different tensions), and 3 different combinations of puresound snares, nothing can get this drum to sound anywhere near where I want it to. It has a strange boxy, choked and cheap sound. It sounds almost as if someone is pressing their hand against the bottom head at all times. The snare response is uneven, in the sense that the snares seem to respond to whatever they want to, and are not sensitive to the strokes you play on the drum.The drum sounds okay if the snares are off, but when they are engaged, it seems like the snare beds are altering the sound drastically. The snares choke the drum so much that the top head loses responsiveness. The drum just lacks a depth of sound that other snares I've played have. If other snares could be described with a "boing" sound, this snare would be described as a "thud" sound.
          I had really high hopes for this snare. I imagined a deep, thick, and sustaining tone from this drum, but it has just let me down every time I play it.

          I've had other friends play it and I've listend to it from a distance and to be honest, it only sounds worse from 8-10 feet in front of the kit. It sounds like a snarey mess. It lacks definition and punch - at all tunings.


          It's not totally awful, in the sense that I can get it technically in tune, but it just never sounds right. The snares have to be cranked to get any sort of thick response out of them. Otherwise, letting them just touch the bottom head to keep the sound open and unchoked leaves them so loose that the sympathetic buzz simply out of control, and the drum is at about 90% open, 10% snares at that point.

          I've recorded this snare in the studio and I was even more disappointed in the sounds I was getting. Dead, no high end, now bottom end. It was a mid-range mess.

          I've rated this snare a 6 out of 10. It's not totally awful, but for the money I paid, I was expecting a much better sounding snare. I've played real Black Beauties in the past, and sadly, this just doesn't compare. If you're considering getting this snare, do yourself a favor and save up some extra cash and get a real Black Beauty.
          Well made, despite being made in Taiwan. Looks nice and is made with quality parts. Heavy, durable snare.
          Better off saving up your money for a real Black Beauty.

          Reviewed by 12 customers

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          5.0

          This thing is fat

          By TNPdrummer

          from Undisclosed

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          Pros

          • Easy to tune
          • Great Sound
          • Huge Tone
          • Responsive
          • Sensitive
          • Versatile
          • Wide tuning range

          Cons

          • The Pricemaybe

          Best Uses

          • Back Up
          • Large Venues
          • Rock And Sub-genres

          Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

          I bought this because I wanted to get a deep, fat sound for the band I'm in and a 20 ply maple shell that I currently own obviously wasn't going to do that.

          I stumbled upon this after looking into the Pork Pie BOB and this, by far, won my money. The Black Beauty, partially due to my budget, wasn't even considered. It has a huge tone when tuned low (kind of that white washed gun shot type of sound) and has a great crack when tuned high.

          Out of the box, it took me about 3 minutes to tune up and get the wires dialed in and even with the stock heads and wires it sounds great. I'm seriously not changing the stock out until I have to.

          Great drum and definitely worth it.

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          (5 of 5 customers found this review helpful)

           
          5.0

          AMAZING Snare Drum. My New Go-To

          By Scott3087

          from Minneapolis, MN

          About Me Professional Musician

          Pros

          • Deep Fat And Wet Sound
          • Great Crack
          • Great Quiet Or Loud
          • Huge Tone
          • Responsive
          • Sensitive
          • Very Versatile
          • Wide tuning range

          Cons

          • None

          Best Uses

          • Accompaniment
          • Jazz Clubs
          • Large Venues
          • School Bands
          • Small Venues
          • Studio

          Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

          This is my new work horse. It gives me everything I need. I play in rock, reggae, and funk bands. I also do studio work. This snare doesn't disappoint in any situation.

          It has a warm tone but a great crack that you only get from brass snares. Is the black beauty "better"? Only a drummer with a good ear would be able to tell a difference, and it wouldn't be a big difference. Also consider that you wouldn't hear the difference in a live setting.

          No complaints with quality. I did put on nylon snare straps which greatly improved sensitivity. I also use the Evans G1 coated head with a little dampening.

          I went with the 8X14 model because I wanted that deep fat sound. It can be tuned higher and responds very well in that range. However, I will say that I always play with a second 13" aux snare to get the higher tones. I keep my Back Magic tuned low for my main snare. I say this because I have heard that the 7X13 Black Magic is the most versatile if you are using only one snare. I debated between the 13" and 14" models quite a bit, but chose this one because it was able to get those fat tones while still responding well to high tuning. No regrets!!!!

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          5.0

          Sounds Great!

          By Lee

          from Flint, Michigan

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          Ask me a question

          Verified Buyer

          Pros

          • Great Sound
          • Huge Tone
          • Responsive
          • Sensitive
          • Versatile

          Cons

            Best Uses

              Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

              I bought the 14x8 and it sounds huge! Great snare! I would recommend it to anyone!

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              5.0

              sounds great!

              By drummered

              from Northeast

              About Me Experienced

              Verified Buyer

              Pros

              • Great Sound
              • Huge Tone
              • Responsive
              • Sensitive
              • Versatile

              Cons

                Best Uses

                • Small Venues
                • Soundtracks

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                sounds great! cuts through the mix no problem.
                It can be tuned to meet almost any application.
                I don't like it, I love it!

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                5.0

                Black Magic Snare Drum

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                This is a GREAT value for an INCREDIBLE sounding drum!!!!!!!!!!
                This drum kicks ass!!! Even with the stock head it sounds great.I also own the Jim Riley . Snare its a great sounding drum as well, but the black nickle over brass rules!!!!!!

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                (6 of 6 customers found this review helpful)

                 
                3.0

                Good, but not great. I was expecting more, Ludwig...

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                I have the 6.5x14 version of this snare.
                I bought it about a year ago. I'll be honest, I had really high hopes for this snare. Don't get me wrong - it's not that bad, but it's not what I expected. Let me try to run you through some of the pros and cons I have about this snare.Pros: Solidly made. Despite being made in Taiwan, it's very solid. Other people complaining about lugs falling out must be tuning it wrong or have a faulty model or something. I have beat the living hell out of this thing and nothing has ever loosened at all. Die cast hoops are really solid and nicely made.Tube lugs look nice and keep contact with the shell minimal, offering better resonance.The drum just looks badass. Black on black looks real slick. Cons:After many (4+) different drumhead selections (Remo emperor, black X, CS reverse dot, Evans power center reverse dot, hazy 300 snare side, ambassador snare side), hours of tuning at different tensions (Batter head low, medium, high, cranked, bottom head at all different tensions), and 3 different combinations of puresound snares, nothing can get this drum to sound anywhere near where I want it to. It has a strange boxy, choked and cheap sound. It sounds almost as if someone is pressing their hand against the bottom head at all times. The snare response is uneven, in the sense that the snares seem to respond to whatever they want to, and are not sensitive to the strokes you play on the drum.The drum sounds okay if the snares are off, but when they are engaged, it seems like the snare beds are altering the sound drastically. The snares choke the drum so much that the top head loses responsiveness. The drum just lacks a depth of sound that other snares I've played have. If other snares could be described with a "boing" sound, this snare would be described as a "thud" sound.
                I had really high hopes for this snare. I imagined a deep, thick, and sustaining tone from this drum, but it has just let me down every time I play it.

                I've had other friends play it and I've listend to it from a distance and to be honest, it only sounds worse from 8-10 feet in front of the kit. It sounds like a snarey mess. It lacks definition and punch - at all tunings.


                It's not totally awful, in the sense that I can get it technically in tune, but it just never sounds right. The snares have to be cranked to get any sort of thick response out of them. Otherwise, letting them just touch the bottom head to keep the sound open and unchoked leaves them so loose that the sympathetic buzz simply out of control, and the drum is at about 90% open, 10% snares at that point.

                I've recorded this snare in the studio and I was even more disappointed in the sounds I was getting. Dead, no high end, now bottom end. It was a mid-range mess.

                I've rated this snare a 6 out of 10. It's not totally awful, but for the money I paid, I was expecting a much better sounding snare. I've played real Black Beauties in the past, and sadly, this just doesn't compare. If you're considering getting this snare, do yourself a favor and save up some extra cash and get a real Black Beauty.
                Well made, despite being made in Taiwan. Looks nice and is made with quality parts. Heavy, durable snare.
                Better off saving up your money for a real Black Beauty.

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                4.0

                Good but not

                By Jimmy-bAlNW

                from SoCal

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                This snare is made in Taiwan! Booooooo, Ludwig! You oughtta be ashamed of yourself but after playing it I have pretty much gotten over that. Just like other reviews I've read, upgrades on the throw, snare, head and possibly tension rods is in order. During first jam session I had to keep tightening the throw. Afterwards, found two tension rods on the floor(that would really suck if I was playing at a club because they would most likely have been left behind). It projects well, is pretty loud, which I like and it looks killer. Overall, it is a good drum but be prepared to make upgrades if you are particular about your gear. Although, right out of the box it sounds good.

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                (1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

                 
                5.0

                sweetest snare in my arsenal

                By Ronnie S

                from Skokie,Il

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                I have had my Black Magic for about month and It is the best snare iI have owned .It cuts through with a beautiful crack, and has a voice like no other. I replaced my 6.5 Maple Yamaha with this beauty and I can't stop playing it. My collection of snare drums is now complete. I used Maple 6.5 for years ,but now the Magic is back! I love it!!!

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                5.0

                Crushing backbeat, beautiful sensitivity

                By Chunchunchun

                from Gloucestershire, UK

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                Ludwig command the market when it comes to metal snares, and with this it's easy to see why.Everything works with this to make it seriously powerful drum, the brass shell, the cavernous depth, the die-cast hoops and the tube lugs all give this a devastating backbeat, comparable to a shotgun, great for a load of contemporary styles from alternative rock right through to metal.However, despite the depth, it's actually more sensitive under the stick than the 6.5" depth model, with potential for great press and buzz rolls, and also ghost notes in jazz, with the exact same tuning of super tight reso head and medium tight batter head.This must be the most versatile 8" depth snare in the world right now, I could see myself tuning this up and using the immense power to have a really commanding crack in funk and dance as well.Anyone who is looking for a snare that can tackle anything playing in a modern band can throw at it would do well to try this out.

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                (1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

                 
                5.0

                awesome snare

                By Anonymous

                from Undisclosed

                Comments about Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum:

                I have owned this snare for about 4 months now and I absolutely love it. The thing is built like a champ. When I bought mine I exchanged the throw-off for a trick gs007. the original throw off would loosen on an older Ludwig snare I previously owned and I didn't want to deal with that on this one. It is very easy to tune and with the addition of things like the rims

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