Roland Jupiter-80 Synthesizer
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Pros
- Easy to Use
- Responsive / Good Action
- Touch Sensitive Keys
Cons
Best Uses
- Concerts
- Electronic Music
Comments about Roland Jupiter-80 Synthesizer:
As you have read in other reviews, you need to tweak this board. The sounds are great out of the box, but any true boardist will create there own sounds. Also, for those that complain about a board being too heavy..STOP!! This is built like a tank and I love it. I cant stand boards that are built lighter and cheaper.
Pros
- Touch Sensitive Keys
Cons
- Heavy
- No Speakers
Best Uses
- Chamber Music
- Electronic Music
- Learning
Comments about Roland Jupiter-80 Synthesizer:
I love my Gaia SH-01, but it has two major shortcomings: the keyboard range is too limited, and using its GM module can be a little unpredictable in a live situation without a computer. I've been looking for something to replace my antiquated master keyboard; unfortunately, looks like the Gaia might be replaced as well.
Let's begin with what the Jupiter 80 is and is not. The Jupiter 80 is a performance synth, made to be played in real time. Though it can be addressed multi-timbrally by a sequencer via layers and splits, generally speaking, this is not the philosophy behind it.
As far as sound architecture is concerned, it is divided in two: a sort-of General MIDI module on steroids (explained in greater depth later) and a Virtual Analog environment, in any combination of four stacked parts and / or three parts + percussion, billed as Super Natural Acoustic and Super Natural Synth respectively.
Super Natural Acoustic is an ersatz GM set which combines physical modeling with performance modeling. Physical modeling of the piano, for instance, includes "hammer noise", "sympathetic string vibrations" parameters, etc. Each physically modeled GM instrument has parameters specific to its method of sound production. So the Drawbar Organ, as another example, has the ability to adjust the drawbars individually, adjust key click intensity, crosstalk from other tone wheels, so forth and so on.
Performance modeling is the BEHAVIOR which an instrument articulates. For example, the descending glissando of a trumpet speaks idiomatically different from, say, the hammer-on of a guitar, or the pizzicato of an orchestral string instrument. All of these nuances are handled in real-time (via controllers) and specific to each instrument.
The Super Natural Synth section is - on first glance - similar to the Gaia: three independent but stacked single-oscillator synths (each with their own LFOs / filters / envelopes), but a "part" allows layering for four of them, and a "registration" allows your to layer and / or split four parts (potentially 16 oscillators per voice across the keyboard *before* you layer a Super Natural Acoustic). Any film composers or Foley guys out there?
24 hours in, I have two first impressions: (1) everything about this board, from its physical footprint to its sound is massive - subtlety is not what I would associate with it; (2) I am sad that the sound designers sought to overwhelm (upon first glance) rather than milk the sounds possible. It's too thick. It's too big. It's good to know it's there when you need it, but as a sound designer, I feel like I've been short-sighted with the possibilities this board can offer. Guess I will have to explore on my own.
I am not unsatisfied.
Comments about Roland Jupiter-80 Synthesizer:
If you are replacing a workstation & want this....DON'T! This is not a workstation. I kept my V-Synth GT strickly for the Vocoder and sequencer. I have the Kronos for the sampling and workstation stuff. I've hung on to my Motif XS because out of the box I can play a lot of familiar sounds if I was doing covers of songs(like 80's music).
The progamability of this is, to me, far more easier to use than the Motif or especially the Kronos(which is really deep). It's a keeper for me, but will not make everyone happy so decide what you need first. Otherwise you may regret it!
I've owned several keyboards over the years. I've had several vintage ones to compare it to also. The sounds "overall" are not as good as a upper level Kurzweil or Motif. But, & I do mean "BUT"....once you get into it & tweak the sounds, not half bad! I think the real problem is that Roland decided to layer & layer the sounds on top of its self & nothing really comes through as clear or clean or really usable. Once you start turning sounds off and get into it more, you start picking up actual sounds that either sound famiiar or can be used.
The build I feel is really nice. Even nicer than the Motif XS. It does have metal so it feels solid. I happen to own a 88 key Kronos and in comparison, the J80 feels more solid to me(the Kronos has plastic sides and something like cardboard/pressboard on the bottom-obviously to cut down on weight and cost.)
As I've gotten older, I do not buy "cheapy" keyboards anymore. Not worth it. So comparing it to the others out there for the price, it is a bit pricey. I was fortunate enough to get this for $2600 total so it that range, it's better than average. At $3500, get either a Motif XS, a Kurzweil PC3 or even a Kronos. If you shop around, either of these 3 could probably be bought around 3K.
Comments about Roland Jupiter-80 Synthesizer:
The JP-80 has a number of "Jupiter-8" registrations and live sets, and presumably they sound something like the JP-8. Because everything is modeled it's not likely it sounds exactly like a JP-8, though the brass patches sound pretty similar to my MKS80's brass patches. However, they aren't identical, which could be either a good thing or a bad thing. I do know I'd prefer to buy the JP-80 than a JP-8 at its current insane prices.
The Jupiter-80 is loaded with a few features which set it apart from the competition: SuperNATURAL instrument sounds, a harmony accompiament, touchscreen, over 1900 synthesized tones, ease of use on-stage thanks to the front-panel registration selector.
Really well built (it better be since it weighs 40lbs), keyboard is responsive and comfortable to use, touchscreen is bright and easy to use (though a stylus helps).
At its current price it's awful expensive. Despite its many capabilities it's not getting as much use as I'd like--seems I use it more as a MIDI controller rather than an instrument. Setting up new patches is difficult and an exercise in patience, thanks to the many layers and frustration of using the synth tone editor (lots of tiny knobs, sliders and buttons).
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